You've asked for more clarifications a few times before in this thread and I-¦m not sure how I can clarify this to your satisfaction. I think it's fairly well covered in my reply why we thought it would make sense to explore a relationship with them during a time when we are thinking a lot about more tournaments and competitive events. If you just plain don't like lottery sites or SOMER in particular then of course you're just going to disagree with that judgement call and that's perfectly natural.

To answer the fansite question, they haven't been a registered fansite but we work with other types of enterprises than registered fansites.

PS: They seem to be ignoring and locking all threads that try to get to the bottom of why SOMERblink is being permitted to perpetuate a RMT business. How come?

[quote=Trebor Daehdoow]Gentlepods,

3. You have 40+ pages in this thread, granted with quit a bit of repetitive opinions, some hysteria/rage, but ultimately with a clear indication of the problem at hand and suggestions for its solution by many many different voices, not just a few repeaters. I as a normal player have read through the majority of this entire stack of posts and the least I expect from the CSM is that they do that too even if it isn't much fun. Grab a cold beer, bring in a box of cookies, and start reading. Make sure you take a pee break and have a smoke, then come back. Use a pen and a paper to note down the key points of the most interesting posts (there are several in between). Now you don't need the survey.

They are apparently doing a survey and are taking months to NOT resolve the matter.

Funny it does not take them months to stop RMT when it doesn't involve Somer.

I would agree that it could be worth waiting out...

Of course, being dev moderated still leaves a blue tag on the thread itself, but at least it looks less like an endorsement.

b) We will tell you when hell freezes over.

"Honor isn't about making the right choices. It's about dealing with the consequences."

You stole the quote CCP, but then at least learn to embrace it.

CCP has accepted what Somer is doing is RMT, which is why it gave them 7 days more to do it without consequence?

Now they are giving 1b isk out with every sale,

This is simply ridiculous now. I am totally speechless.

The hilarious thing about this is CCP is actually, and really really overtly, just ignoring us lol.

i think CCP's lack of response is irking me more than the stupidity of the initial problem at this point.

And CCP has a good point: ignore it, it starts to die off. Look at how this thread took off to begin with, and how it's still gaining pages now. It's slower. Much slower. Maybe it's because a lot of people did let their accounts lapse. Who knows?

mine goes in 17 hours and not expecting a positive outcome to all of this once ive left, final point to all those that asked, no you cant have my stuff.

[obligatory "still no response from ccp" post]

Why not set up a third party website, where lottery/gambling sites register a their api keys and certain financial data is made public to the community? A watchdog site?

Unless my memory has gone completely soggy over the last weeks it seems something fishy is going on behind the scenes
if you check the https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=275730&find=unread (list of blogs etc in information portal)
I cant see any community spotlight link for Somer in there and i could have sworn CCP made one of those earlier ...

*tinfoil hat off*

thowlimer

part of me wouldn't be surprised to find out that CCP aren't saying anything to them either.

it seems like if they fly enough rifters around the office, and make enough gifs, people might forget this sticky exists.

For everyone else in this thread, I had submitted a petition reporting Autumnries Mahm (as CEO) and every member of the SOMER Blink corp as being in violation of the EULA for using their accounts for business purposes, and cited the article reporting their $135K+ earnings as evidence. While I cannot disclose the results of this petition or what communication I may or may not have received, I will say that the experience was interesting. I can only suggest that others do the same, in order to 1) put more pressure on CCP to take real action, and 2) discover whatever response you may receive for yourself.

customer service.

i don't think that phrase means what ccp thinks it means.

"unreasonable to talk to". how would they know? they haven't even tried. i think the most constructive post in the thread from ccp was guard saying he was going to have pizza.

if the matter is closed surely a post explaining their position isn't too much to ask for?

**** it, i don't know why i'm still wasting my time, it's clear ccp don't give a **** so why should i?

this would do a lot towards restoring the image of Somer as a 'community service'

Just to summarise, for those that are new to this, CCP has given Somerblink:

-CCP vouches to protect its reputation
-CCP advertisement to help it beat its competitors
-not 1, not 10, not 20 but THIRTY 15B isk ships spawned as presents
-A special relationship that includes skype contact
-Ability to break the EULA and sell isk for real money
-Bonus 7 days to sell isk for real money after players forced it to end
-A variety of the most insanely rare and valuable ships and items to lottery out as prizes in its eve business
-The reasoning for all of the above is that Somer's lottery operation is apparently a 'community hub' and they need help to keep providing content

And to top it all off, CCP is snubbing this thread by not replying to it at all, and unstickying it so that maybe it will just die out. Basically an underhand propaganda tactic to protect itself and to protect its close friend Somer.

"Something very wrong" being "CCP is looking at staving off some debts next year".

what can they say?
ccp clearly don't give a toss and aren't interested so it's not like the CSM have any news for us even if they did care.

If you don't like it, leave.

Is it against the rules to set up a 'unsub protest' thread?

And that shows how much you matter :) biomass so that CCP can stop having to spend time dealing with whistle blowers and spend more time on developing the game.

Somber made a successful program. They got rewarded. You did nothing and got nothing.

DEAL WITT IT. EITHER MAKE SOMETHING FOR THE COMMUNITY TO EARN THE REWARD TO GIVE OUT TO PEOPLE OR BIOMASS.

CCP is ignorant

And implicitly or explicitly endorsing certain organisations over others is also a bad idea. (Now a pet peeve of mine, sorry.)

never going to happen and were also a lie and they'd just end up branding themselves as untrustworthy rather than ignorant AND untrustworthy.

I find most of the complaints are based on WHO received the gift. This frankly is sad.


You can say "It's not right right to reward a gambling site" But the same could be argued about any "Community" group. It could be said that organizations like the folks who run the New Eden Open shouldn't get any special treatment cause at any point they could just take the prizes for them selves. The truth is that's true about any one. The other thing that's true is that people who got rewarded "BIG Lottery 10th anniversary event, Alliance Tournament player commentators, Alliance Tournament volunteers, the staff of the Syndicate Competitive League (SCL)" Didn't get any sort of grief from the community.
" Sometimes it has to do with the timing of specific events related to that fansite or enterprise, sometimes your favorite is next in line or theyGÇÖve simply gotten something different, such as free accounts, trips and/or tickets to Fanfest, CollectorGÇÖs editions, a couple of time codes, devs flown to their events, T-shirts, posters, resin ship models etc. etc."

So this is just a GREAT example of how selfishness combined with the loudest complaint/biggest riot can ruin a good thing.

OMG that spelling error.. that means his whole statement is garbage!! logic has arrived!